Russia's reaction to the NATO misile shield?

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Russia's reaction to the NATO misile shield?

Post by Saul » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:04 pm

Putin repeats threat on missiles

Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeated his threat to target missiles at neighbouring states if they site parts of the planned US missile shield.

Mr Putin said the US proposal to base interceptors in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic "threatens our national security".

The Russian leader said earlier this week Moscow might target Ukraine if it sited elements of such a system.

The US says it is designed to block any missiles from North Korea or Iran.

But Mr Putin reiterated Russian objections to the scheme during his annual news conference at the Kremlin.

Russia's response would be to "retarget our missiles toward a system that we aren't creating", he was quoted by AP news agency as saying.

"We are warning people ahead of time: if you take this step, then we will make this step."

Russia holds presidential elections next month which are widely expected to be won by Mr Putin's chosen successor, First Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
Would like to hear opinions on this, especially from people in Russia,Poland,Czech Republic and Ukraine.

Seems to me, on the one hand, Russia is perfectly entitled to protect itself from what it sees as a threat from the West, but then if they believe we are such a threat why are they even talking to us ? Why are they on the Security council? Surely this just kicks us all the way back to the cold war? Friend don't point missiles at each other....that goes for the West as well as the EAST.

The US says the missile shield is to protect NATO countries from attack by North Korea and Iran. Ok that's plausible but then, why not include Russia in the scheme? Could it be because Russia is a big supporter of North Korea and Iran ?

Where is the threat here? Why should there be a threat? Why should Russia suddenly want to target Poland, Czech Republic and Ukraine? Should they also not be targeting Germany, France, Spain and the UK ? We are all members of NATO and will be protected by the same missile shield. Oh I forgot, they also said they will re target their missiles at Western cities.

My own personal opinion is that Russia does not fear the proposed missile shield. What it really fears is democracy spreading across it's own borders. If Ukraine is free to join NATO and the EU and then prospers as a result perhaps Russia's own people may see the benefits far out weigh the negatives?
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Post by Saul » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:05 pm

Obviously no one apart from me actually has an opinion on this? Perhaps thats why the US get's away with causing most of the problems in the world and then pretending it's nothing to do with them ?

See 'War On Democracy' and you'll understand what I'm talking about.
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Re: Russia's reaction to the NATO misile shield?

Post by TheTruthTeller » Thu May 24, 2012 7:48 pm

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"Russia test-fires missile amid tensions over NATO defense shield announcement

MISSILE DEFENSE
May 23, 2012|By the CNN Wire Staff

Russia test-fired a ballistic missile Wednesday, a move that comes amid tensions about a recent NATO announcement that it placed an interim missile defense shield in Europe.

The intercontinental missile was launched Wednesday morning from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in northwestern Russia, the state-run RIA Novosti news agency reported.

"The new intercontinental ballistic missile is intended to strengthen the capabilities of Russia's Strategic Missile Forces, including its capabilities for overcoming anti-missile defenses," Defense Ministry spokesman Vadim Koval told RIA Novosti.

The launch comes days after NATO's chief said the alliance now has an interim ballistic missile defense capability in Europe.

Among the interim capabilities are missile interceptors loaded on a U.S. ship in the Mediterranean, the first of four anticipated warships with the defense system. A defense radar is also operational in Turkey. The interim system will link the allies' missile defense systems -- satellites, ships, radars and interceptors -- under NATO control from a U.S. base in Ramstein, Germany.

NATO has asked Russia to participate in the system, but negotiations have been deadlocked over Russia's demand for a legally binding treaty guaranteeing the shield would not be used as a deterrent to Moscow's own systems.

Late last year, then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev threatened to withdraw from the START treaty on nuclear weapons reductions and deploy ballistic missiles in its enclave of Kaliningrad on its border with Europe, if NATO moved ahead with the plans for missile defense.

Tensions further increased in December, when Russia's ambassador to NATO suggested that Moscow would close transit routes that send vital supplies to troops in Afghanistan."
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Re: Russia's reaction to the NATO misile shield?

Post by TheTruthTeller » Thu May 24, 2012 7:51 pm

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"NATO activates missile shield, reaches out to Russia
Posted: 21 May 2012 0627 hrs

CHICAGO: NATO leaders launched Sunday the first phase of a US-led missile shield for Europe and sought to appease Russian anger over the system by renewing an invitation to cooperate.

President Barack Obama and his allies declared an "interim capability" at a Chicago summit, putting a US warship carrying interceptors in the Mediterranean and a Turkey-based radar system under NATO command in a German base.

The alliance insists that the shield is not aimed at Russia and aims to knock out missiles that could be launched by enemies such as Iran, but Moscow fears the system will also serve to neutralize its nuclear deterrent.

"We have invited Russia to cooperate on missile defense and this invitation still stands," NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen told a news conference.

"We will continue our dialogue with Russia and I hope that at a certain stage Russia will realize that it is in our common interest to cooperate on missile defense," he said.

Stressing that NATO must be able to defend itself against missile threats, Rasmussen said the move "cannot be blocked by Russia, it's a NATO decision."

In a threat reminiscent of the Cold War, Russia has warned it may respond to the NATO system by stationing short-range Iskander missiles in its Kaliningrad exclave near Poland, a European Union and NATO member state.

The standoff has tested Russian-US relations for much of the past decade and been one of the primary issues addressed by Obama when he launched a diplomatic "reset" with Moscow in 2009.

NATO had hoped that Russian President Vladimir Putin would come to Chicago, but instead he sent a lower level delegation to represent Moscow during the summit's discussion on Afghanistan.

Putin, who returned to power after succeeding his protege Dmitry Medvedev this month, was often at odds with the previous US administration over missile defense in his first two terms of office.

"Russia is sensitive about its nuclear capability because that's what makes it a superpower," said Nick Witney, a London-based defense expert at the European Council on Foreign Relations.

In a bid to appease its former Cold War foe, the Western military alliance offered to cooperate with Russian on missile defense at the last summit in November 2010 in Lisbon, but the two sides have struggled to find common ground.

"This is not a project targeted against Russia, but a project we want to push forward with Russia in the interest of Europe's security," said German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle. "And therefore the door for Russia will stay open."

NATO leaders, in a declaration on its nuclear Deterrence and Defense Posture Review, reaffirmed that missile defense "is not oriented against Russia nor does it have the capability to undermine Russia's strategic deterrent."

The first phase will only give the alliance a very limited defense against rogue missiles. The system is being rolled out in four phases and will become fully operational by 2018.

Spain will host four US Aegis ships at its port in Rota while Poland and Romania have agreed to host US land-based SM-3 missiles in the coming years.

Moscow has called for joint control over the system and for NATO to sign a legally-binding guarantee that it is not aimed at Russia.

But NATO has balked at both demands, insisting on keeping two separate systems and refusing to sign a legally-binding document. Instead, the alliance has offered to share sensitive data with Russia.

The US election also appears to have affected the pace of negotiations.

An open microphone famously caught Obama telling then president Medvedev in March that he could negotiate some concessions on the system if Russia gave him "space" until after the election this year."
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Re: Russia's reaction to the NATO misile shield?

Post by TheTruthTeller » Thu May 24, 2012 7:56 pm

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"Russia tests new missile after NATO summit

2012-05-24 19:19


MOSCOW (AFP) -- Russia staged Wednesday the first successful test-launch of a new intercontinental missile designed to pierce the defence system now being deployed by NATO despite Moscow‘s fierce complaints.

The highly-symbolic launch came just four days after the alliance formally activated the first stage of a defense shield whose deployment Russia has bitterly opposed out of fears that it may target its own vast nuclear arsenal.

The missile “should raise the combat capabilities of Russia’s Strategic Nuclear Forces, including by improving their ability to overcome missile defense systems,” defense ministry spokesman Vadim Koval told RIA Novosti.

A military source told the Interfax news agency that the launch was only the second ever conducted in the top-secret program.

The source said the first failed on Sept. 27 when the missile suffered an undisclosed malfunction and crashed only 10 kilometers from the launch site.

The rocket still has no formal name but is being billed by the military as a “fifth generation” weapon that substantially upgrades the technology used by its already-feared feared Topol-M and Yars systems.

“This is one of the ... measures being developed by Russia‘s military and political leadership in response to the US deployment of a global anti-missile system,” former strategic forces director Viktor Yesin told Interfax.

Little has been revealed about the weapon except its purported ability to better avoid being shot down.

The government Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper claimed the missile “can reach any spot on Earth” from Russian soil with a maximum range of 16,000 kilometers and can carry a bigger payload than any missile in Russia’s current range.

Military sources said Wednesday that the missile was also easier to manoeuvre and had individual and had individual warheads that could change course as they closed in on a target at supersonic speed.

Russia already has hundreds of long-range missiles capable of raining down nearly 2,000 nuclear warheads on the United States.

But much of the force is built on technology developed in the Soviet era that Russia fears may become obsolete by the time NATO‘s shield becomes fully operational in 2018.

Russian President Vladimir Putin unveiled a massive new armaments program during his successful election to a third term and made a visit to a military factory one of his first high-profile stops after his May 7 swearing in.

Putin’s predecessor and protege Dmitry Medvedev warned the West last year that Russia will have to deploy new rockets on the borders of NATO‘s European partners such as Poland should its concerns not be addressed.

It has since deployed a next-generation anti-missile radar near the Polish border and on Wednesday began testing a similar station at the heart of its nuclear arsenal base in the Siberian city of Irkutsk.

The army’s top general Nikolai Makarov this month ratcheted up the rhetoric further by warning that Russia reserved the right to preemptively strike NATO targets once it felt its shield posed a significant threat.

U.S. President Barack Obama has sent multiple negotiating missions to Moscow and was earlier this year caught by an open microphone telling Medvedev that he intended to negotiate more on the issue should he win re-election in November.

Medvedev this weekend also delivered a message from Putin to Obama that one Russian official said covered security issues along with other points."
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Re: Russia's reaction to the NATO misile shield?

Post by TheTruthTeller » Thu May 24, 2012 8:00 pm

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"Russia tests new missile, in warning over U.S. shield
Steve Gutterman, Reuters May 24, 2012, 4:35 am

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia tested a new long-range missile on Wednesday that should improve its ability to penetrate missile defense systems, the military said, in Moscow's latest warning to Washington over deployment of a missile shield in Europe.

The Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) was successfully launched from the Plesetsk facility in northwestern Russia and its dummy warhead landed on target on the Kamchatka peninsula on the Pacific coast, the Defense Ministry said.

The new missile is expected to improve Russia's offensive arsenal, "including by increasing the capability to overcome missile defense systems that are being created", the ministry said in a statement.

Russia opposes a missile shield the United States and NATO are deploying in Europe, saying it will be able to intercept Russian warheads by about 2018, weakening Moscow's nuclear arsenal and upsetting the post-Cold War balance of power.

The United States says the system is intended to counter a potential threat from Iran and poses no risk to Russia, but the Kremlin has rejected those assurances and stepped up criticism of the system, to be deployed in four phases by about 2020.

Last autumn, then-President Dmitry Medvedev outlined steps Russia was taking to neutralize the perceived threat, including upgrades to Russia's offensive nuclear arsenal.

Russia and the United States are still in talks to agree cooperation on missile defense, but Moscow has warned of further measures if no such deal is reached and Washington refuses to provide binding guarantees its system will not threaten Russia.

At a conference in Moscow this month, senior General Nikolai Makarov said Russia could carry out pre-emptive strikes on future NATO missile defense installations to protect its security.

The European system is to include interceptor missile installations in Poland and Romania and a radar in Turkey as well as interceptors and radars on ships based in the Mediterranean Sea.

Russia usually names its weapons, but the Defense Ministry made no mention of a name for the new missile. It said it could be fired from a mobile launcher.

Missile defense has troubled ties between Russia and the United States since the Cold War.

The dispute over the current project has developed despite President Barack Obama's decision in 2009 to scrap the previous administration's plans for longer-range interceptors, which helped improve relations after a period of growing tension.

Western officials say improvements to Russia's ICBM arsenal undermine Moscow's argument that the system will present a threat and suggest the Kremlin wants to use the issue as a bargaining chip in broader talks on nuclear arms cuts.

During his 2000-2008 Kremlin term, President Vladimir Putin repeatedly said Russia would improve its offensive nuclear capability in response to U.S. missile defense plans.

In 2007, First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, now Putin's chief of staff, was quoted by Russian news agencies as saying Russia already had weapons that could overcome any current or future missile defense system."
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Post by TheTruthTeller » Thu May 24, 2012 8:05 pm

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"New Russia weapons to counter NATO strategic fist - expert

Published: 23 May, 2012, 19:57
Edited: 24 May, 2012, 11:43


In light of America and NATO’s blunt refusal to cooperate with Russia on a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe, Russia has put the development of new offensive weapons on the fast track.

Vladimir Kozin, the leading researcher at the Russian Strategic Research Institute (RISI), praised the test launch on Wednesday of a new intercontinental ballistic missile, saying it is an important step to further perfecting Russia's strategic offensive weapons

"The new missile project is a step in the right direction at a time when the United States is engaged in…large-scale modernization of its strategic and tactical nuclear potentials, and amid the continuing deployment of the European and global missile defense systems,” he said.

The researcher said the US system targeted Russia's “national interests and defense nuclear potential," a view held by many Russian military analysts.

Defense Ministry spokesman Vadim Koval said the first launch of the prototype missile, which successfully hit a target on the far eastern Kamchatka Peninsula, took place at the Plesetsk launchpad in northern Russia.

"The launch was conducted using a mobile launch vehicle by RVSN combat units and the Aerospace Defense Forces," the spokesman said.

Meanwhile, Kozin, who is a member of the Experts Council of the Kremlin's Interagency Group for Interaction on Missile Defense with NATO, pointed to NATO's recent summit, where it was decided to “form a sort of Chicago triad – a radically new decision to combine nuclear and conventional weapons, together with the missile defense system, into one strategic fist."

Such a development, says Kozin, presents a real threat to Russia and its allies.

"Such a combination carries even more threats for Russia and its allies and friends, than a separately operating missile shield," according to the top-ranking missile researcher. "Washington, as NATO's May summit demonstrated, continues to neglect the Russian leadership's concerns about the absolutely unjustified assembly of a multi-layered missile defense structure near the Russian borders, as well as Russia's proposals to form a less provocative, but more efficient missile defense structure."

Russia must take adequate counter-measures and develop advanced means to penetrate the US-NATO missile defense infrastructure and, concurrently, to depreciate their nuclear-missile potential, he added."
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Re: Russia's reaction to the NATO misile shield?

Post by TheTruthTeller » Thu May 24, 2012 8:08 pm

Finally of course we cannot forget what the BBC has to say about all of this on their site known as bbc.co.uk: :-? :-B

"Russia tests secret missile after Nato shield launched

23 May 2012 Last updated at 12:44 GMT

A new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) so secret it has no name yet has been successfully tested in Russia, the defence ministry says.

The new weapon is designed to penetrate Nato's European missile defence shield, Russian defence sources told the Interfax news agency.

The test came days after Nato said its system had reached "interim operational capability".

The missile carried a dummy warhead and was fired 6,000km (3,730 miles).

It was reportedly the second test of the missile, the first in September having failed.
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The test came days after Nato activated its new missile shield in Europe.

The alliance announced the new ballistic missile defence system had reached "interim operational capability".

Moscow has accused Nato of seeking to undermine its nuclear deterrent but the alliance says its shield is aimed at potential rogue states like Iran.
'In response'

A mobile launcher on the Plesetsk range fired the new missile at 10:15 (06:15 GMT) on Wednesday, defence ministry spokesman Col Vadim Koval said.

The warhead was delivered successfully to its designated area on the Kura range on Kamchatka, he added.

A military source quoted by Interfax said the new ICBM used a "new type of fuel that helps reduce the time required to operate the propellants in the active stage of the rocket's trajectory".

Officials believe this makes it more difficult to detect and easier to manoeuvre.

Interfax said the weapon also features individual warheads that can change course to avoid being shot down.

"This is one of the... measures being developed by Russia's military and political leadership in response to the US deployment of a global anti-missile system," former strategic forces director Viktor Yesin told Interfax.

Nato says its shield is meant to protect members from a missile fired by a rogue state - understood to mean Iran. It plans to increase its capability by deploying further assets in the years ahead.

However, Russia says the shield upsets the military balance and has threatened to turn its missile launchers on vital Nato sites."
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